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Post by petite joueuse on Oct 6, 2006 9:44:22 GMT
Aaaaaaaaaargh! Really struggling to get my head round wacky bassoon fingerings. My fingers think they're playing bass recorder, but the correct fingerings for bassoon are off the planet at times. I hate playing a piece, really getting into it and then suddenly crashing because I can't for the life of me remember the fingering for a high G# (or whatever). Teacher is very patient, and keeps insisting that I will get it, but I'm finding it very frustrating!
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Post by Benj on Oct 6, 2006 15:18:57 GMT
I know what you mean, I get a headache looking at the bassoon keys - that why i never attempted to play it I keep playing the flute fingering for F# on my saxophone and vice versa
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Post by meepmeep on Oct 6, 2006 20:02:39 GMT
I find it's easier if you're playing instruments that are very different rather than "similar, but..." - so I tend to find treble recorder easier than descant even though the fingerings on the descant are closer to flute. So I can well imagine that bass recorder and bassoon is a bit of a bind. Sorry, don't know what to suggest except lots of long slow accurately-fingered practice of the notes that are bothering you till the fingerings become more automatic
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Post by anacrusis on Oct 6, 2006 20:53:35 GMT
I'm sure it will come right with time. I have a different headache to contend with most of the time - identical sets of fingerings which match different scales - but in addition, my tenor recorder for some bizarre reason needs slightly different fingerings for just a very few notes. I'm learning a piece at the moment which could be played on tenor or descant, and have had to spend time trying out which is to be the definitive one...complete with nearly-same-but-not-quite fingerings. Gaaaah. I guess the old standby of slow practice of the bits which catch you out most often might be one way to go.
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Post by Steve Hopwood on Oct 6, 2006 22:02:32 GMT
Thank heavens I only play the piano.
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Post by caz on Oct 6, 2006 22:13:00 GMT
Thank heavens I only play the piano. That's exactly what I was thinking! ;D
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Post by Benj on Oct 6, 2006 22:59:28 GMT
And me
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Post by princessmoose on Oct 9, 2006 9:26:06 GMT
It's annoying me too, mostly on recorder, because it seems to be a cross between every woodwind instrument I play, I get very confused .
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Post by meepmeep on Oct 9, 2006 13:18:02 GMT
but in addition, my tenor recorder for some bizarre reason needs slightly different fingerings for just a very few notes. I'm learning a piece at the moment which could be played on tenor or descant, and have had to spend time trying out which is to be the definitive one...complete with nearly-same-but-not-quite fingerings. That sounds like a nightmare!
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Post by anacrusis on Oct 11, 2006 15:28:25 GMT
Heaven only knows what it'll be like if I ever get round to getting a renaissance recorder....the fingerings are all different again, and the trills completely crazy, from what I've heard. ;D
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Post by meepmeep on Oct 11, 2006 16:11:58 GMT
Argh. Sounds... umm... fun?? Think I'll stick to treble and the occasional descant when forced thanks
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Post by anacrusis on Oct 11, 2006 22:27:52 GMT
The thing is, I'm finding at the moment that that glass ceiling is still the same height above my head, even as I learn new stuff, and some perverse part of my nature seems to want to try to reach it. Then there is the terrible affliction suffered by all recorder players, of wanting just a few more whistles in their complement... Afterthought - never force a descant recorder. They have great expertise on the revenge front.
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Post by meepmeep on Oct 13, 2006 23:24:56 GMT
Afterthought - never force a descant recorder. They have great expertise on the revenge front. ;D Thank you for the warning
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Post by petite joueuse on Apr 27, 2007 13:16:42 GMT
Well its getting WORSE. Having just about mastered the bassoon fingering (for all but a few rare ethereal notes), I'm now having tenor clef thrown at me. So....I look at a note, and my brain says "That's a D (treble clef) or an F (bass clef)"...but NO, its neither, its a C!!! And the C fingering on bassoon is basically a G soprano recorder fingering (which, on my bass recorder, would, of course give me the required C....except my fingers don't want to finger a Bass C/Soprano G when my eyes are convinced they are looking at an F or a D!!). I'm not sure if any of that makes sense to anyone? HOW do I get my head around this nonsense? MY BRAIN CANNOT COPE!!!
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Post by jod on Apr 27, 2007 13:48:29 GMT
I end up trying to play the oboe/cor anglasi with recorder fingerings and my recorders with oboe fingerings, particularly if I'm transposing at signt for the Cor Anglais when I think its Treble recorder fingerings ... and it mainly works (except f#)
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